#and then you erase your memories and forget it all bc it is too painful
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jewishregulus · 8 months ago
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i think it’s time for a dormary renaissance
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nalyra-dreaming · 11 months ago
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finally getting around to rewatching iwtv w a bit more of a critical lens (since the first time i was just getting seduced by the story :p) and i might be vvv late to this but! im so bamboozled by the details of armand and his memory wiping? Louis de “we keep the damage to remember the damage” du lac asking to forget? After a SHOWER in his burnt body? And if he did forget then wouldnt he just immediately be like “wtf why am i covered in burns?”
armands lying then, but if the s1 drop took years (iirc) for louis to recover and was tended to by claudia, for louis to forget the attempt happened wouldnt armand have to wipe the event AND entire subsequent years of his life healing from it?That seems like a lot to erase is he that powerful? If he is, why were daniel’s memories of armand talking to him popping back up? Does armand just have more control over louis bc he’s with him all the time? What are your thoughts on the extent of armands abilities? also im not sure if they just didnt show it, but do u think its implied that armand starved louis from both blood and drugs for the week so the guy was in pain, out of his coffin, hungry and in withdrawal 😭
The drop in 1x05 did not take years to heal, it took a few months.
But you are correct, re that first memory wipe - I don't think it happened after the burn. I think that happened a few years later. There is no year said, and as you noted, it would be quite weird if Louis would have still been burnt...
And so yes, I do think that Armand wiped a few years off Louis' mind.
And yes, Armand is a very powerful spell and mind gift user - the erasure is more a tweak though I think, a hidden trigger - the memories are still there, but he cannot access them. I mean, otherwise they wouldn't be able to recover them.
I think Louis' memories have been popping up at times - that is why he has been inviting journalists again and again after all! - but Armand is there to "fine tune". And we see that implied in the show, Louis having breakdowns, and then totally fine next evening. Louis being up during the day, burning his arm... and then suddenly needing to sleep when Armand wants him to. As Assad said, Armand is constantly manipulating and spinning that net.
As per the drugs and Armand letting Louis go through withdrawal to get him off them... that is an aspect to it all, yes.
Armand put Louis cold turkey, so to say. But... as Louis said in the fight with Armand, there's also the "gremlin or the good nurse" aspect. And we see that later on, after the trial, too, when Armand lets Louis suffer in that coffin, starving. Because Armand could have pulled him out earlier, but he let him suffer a bit instead.
That is something Armand does, canonically - he passes judgement and enforces it, too. That is very much ingrained in him, and something he doesn't fully give up later on either.
He does what he thinks is best, and what he thinks is appropriate.
And - in addition and unfortunately... his emotions get in the way.
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memeticsdivision · 8 months ago
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EDGY ASK MEME: 24, 23, 10, 9
answering for moratorium cast in general bc these r some tasty questions (warning: it gets so long . i love to yap)
9) Do you have a specific lyric or quote which you associate with your OC? i JUST answered this one today on discord teehee .
mor: lyric: literally all of me and the devil. sorry. cheating. just all of it. quote: “a mother is like god in the eyes of a child” (the crow) or "the people in the mirrors. they see it all! what's really going on." (silent hill origins)
cernunnos: lyric: “call me a seed of evil, but whats that mean if im convinced within your mind?” (cant be erased by jt machinima) quote: “the only me is me. are you sure the only you is you?” (PT) or “they say when you meet somebody that looks just like you, you die.” (i forget the source)
fenris: lyric: “the dreams in which im dying are the best ive ever had” (mad world tears for fears) or “could these sensations make me feel the pleasures of a normal man” (disorder by joy division) quote: "i guess i really don't care if it's dangerous or not. i’m going to town either way." (silent hill 2) or "i don't like mirrors. it's almost like there's an unknown world right on the other side, and the person staring at me isn't really me, just an imitator." (silent hill 3) 10) What's an AU that would be interesting to explore with your OC? i think an AU where fenris and cernunnos switch places – so fenris being a copy of cernunnos and cernunnos being a reality bender – would be pretty interesting. i've thought about it occasionally, and things would definitely be similar but play out completely differently. for example port rosnu would have been the result of unchecked anger and trauma rather than a desperate need to forget and repress trauma, and fenris would probably be a copy of what cernunnos perceives as the "weak" parts of themself rather than the "bad", which they would embrace rather than reject as a defense mechanism, and his motives for bringing cernunnos back to port rosnu would be completely different. but going into a swap au between these two would be going down a HUUUGGEE rabbit hole that i won't go into here LOL. but its interesting, if i had the time and people were interested i'd definitely go further into it ............... also a bendy and the ink machine au 23) What emotion is the hardest for your OC to process? How about express? for fenris, his is grief, especially the idea of moving through it. facing his grief is terrifying because the memories he has are too painful and the idea of letting go means acknowledging they exist. mor's creation wasn't really to escape his grief, but it became a fairly convenient way to do it. his way of expressing that grief is . well . how his life has basically become as frozen as he is in the night his parents died. because of his inability to face his grief, he can never move forward in his life. fenris cannot enjoy the present when he's stuck in the past, and because of that, he can't change. grief is the epitome of change, as so often, grief is when something disappears from your life, and part of the process of moving past it is accepting the change and adapting to it. this is his entire character arc. there's a reason why his tarot card is the death card, both reversed and upright cernunnos' hardest emotion to process is fear. it makes them feel weak, so they try to be feared. they're like a cornered animal biting and clawing to stay safe, and it's not a coincidence the mask they wear is that of a prey animal. it's intimidating, they wear it to be less human, since twisting the innocence often ascribed to a deer into something scary and monsterous is a common horror trope, but it's still a prey animal, it had to die for cernunnos to have its skull in the first place. something hunted it, cornered it, and killed it, something cernunnos tries to imitate but does a poor job at it despite what it may seem. lastly mor's is love. she feels incredibly guilty for the abuse fenris' mother inflicted on him. she wants to atone for it because she genuinely does love him. but mor isn't human. she's what he wished his mother was, but she's also what he felt she was, terrifying, controlling, and someone who continues to haunt his life years after she died. she's like a monster in the closet for him. mor's form of love is kind of twisted as a result, she loves fenris, she wants to do good by him and show him the love she feels he deserves, but she's also profoundly selfish. she loves him, but in a way that leads her to make the exact same mistakes that his mother did that she swore not to repeat 24) What is an alternative life path your OC might have gone down? How different would their life be if they'd made those decisions?
this is a very interesting question to answer for moratorium, and the characters in it in general. i've always said that a key part of fenris' life (listing him specifically, since he's the source of literally everything that happens in moratorium) is that everything that happens was inevitable. even if things didn't happen the way they did, he would ultimately end up right back where it ends in some way or another. say fenris did not kill his parents at 15 in a house fire he accidentally caused. say the fight that triggered it never happened. say they lived and their lives continued as normal. eventually, he would've snapped. fenris could never fully relate or be indoctrinated into his parent's radical, conservative beliefs on society, and the amount of neglect and abuse he experienced never would have changed, because his parents were incapable of change. his mother always believed she was right, and constantly fabricated her own reality to have more and more reasons to convince herself that her worldview is right and that she can never be wrong in anything she does. and his father had no backbone to argue despite the hints that he too was miserable and followed along with whatever she wanted. their home was an echo chamber of resentment, a family of people constantly pushing and pulling at each other and bound together by the very idea that they're family, so they have to stand by each other even as they do nothing but hurt each other, and they're all so bound up by their bitterness that they repress that none of them will ever stick up for themselves and explicitly say something needs to change. so, eventually he would have snapped and probably pulled the trigger himself, so to speak. fenris probably would've ended up killing his parents, and this time it would have been intentional, or one of them probably would've ended up killing the other. their lives were one big boiling pot constantly waiting for the time it inevitably boiled over and once it did it would never have been pretty. so, as much as the idea of alternative paths that could potentially change their lives is interesting, the only change that could possibly happen is his parents not dying on the night they did, meaning he was never orphaned and never got the chance to escape the echo chamber and be exposed to the "normal world" that made him realize how abnormal his was. but they would have died eventually. eventually someone was going to snap because the way they were living their lives was unsustainable. thing's would have happened the same way, just differently
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